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  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

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  Here is a prime example of how the WTBTS blaming the ''messenger'' and not ''the messenger.'' Weak members and apostates are always to blame for them walking away.

  I was a member in 1974. This statement was written in this ''Kingdom Ministry 5/1974'' ring true. Notice, the Watchtower study article that was written years later blaming its members for the 1975 fiasco.

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    ***km5/74p.3HowAreYouUsingYourLife?***

    Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.

  • Clearly, Jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by Satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind." (Luke 17:22, 31) And, indeed, this has happened to some Christians. For years such ones longed for the day when Jehovah will put an end to this wicked world. However, when Armageddon did not occur by the time they expected, ` they became disheartened. Their confidence in the nearness of Jehovah's day of judgment faded. They slowed down in the ministry and gradually became so involved in the mundane matters of life that little time was left for spiritual matters. (Luke 8:11, 13, 14) In time, they `returned to the things behind'--how sad!
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  26 Years Later

  by Victor in

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  i'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the watchtower.

  back then it was the wild wild west with newsgroups being the primary sources of information.

  then came watchtower observer, freeminds, and all the other sites that followed jwd was one of the later sites.

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  Victor said:
  I'm one of earliest adopters of the internet in discovering the real history of the Watchtower.

  What did you find about the real history of the Watchtower, why did you look, what did you do with that information, and what process did you use to get out of the organization?
  
  
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  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

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  NOVEMBER 2018 WATCHTOWER STUDY

  PARAGRAPH 5

  Still others took sides with apostates and other opposers who misrepresented our beliefs.

  As a result, some deliberately began “drawing away” from Jehovah and the congregation. (Heb. 3:12-14)

  Video showing Jehovah's Witnesses talking out both sides of their mouth when it comes to child abuse. First video is of Governing Body member Stephen Lett (one of the JW leaders) on the official JW.org website claiming the child abuse accusations are apostate lies even though the JW organization has been found guilty of not protecting children in multiple trials and have been forced to pay out tens of millions of dollars in damages. The second video comes from PBS News Hour's report on child abuse in the JW organization and features a video of Watchtower Headquarters Supervisor Richard Ashe claiming the responsibility of the JW organization is only to spiritually protect children and that physical protection is the responsibility of the secular authorities.
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  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

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  A question on a side point: What's the scandal in the Rome Bethel?

  wannaexit posted this 5 years ago about a Canadian Circuit Overseer moving to Rome about dysfunction in Rome.5 years ago

  I heard that three years ago bethel was put under the care of the Seltezr (spel) branch. Germany didin't have success.

  This year Brooklyn sent over 3 italian elders and their wifes to set things straight. One is from New York and the other two are Canadians. The committee members have been put aside and these three are running the show.

  The blog proclamatore consapevole started out as a group of three who are trying to bring reform from the inside. They feel that the organization has been overrun by burocratic self serving individuals and that the rot reaches the top. However they still believe that this organization is the "truth".

  There is a poster here by the name LaFrancia who is involved in the group.
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  November 2018 Watchtower study....attacking weak members, their personalities, and apostates

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions!

  if they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!!

  the name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the wtbts flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops!

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  The Watchtower Society always attempts to disprove or discredit valid arguments or statements by criticizing the ability of individuals to think, reason, ask tough questions and make their own decisions! If they can't logically attack the message, they attack the messenger!! The name calling of apostates or anyone who doesn't agree with all the WTBTS flip-flops ( the light gets brighter) never stops! According to the Watchtower Society, apostates ( this article never has any examples) are opposers who misrepresent the WTBTS beliefs.

  So, according to this Watchtower study, all Jehovah's Witness members should not question all the pedophile lawsuits, all the closings of Kingdom Halls all over the world, the reduction of printed materials, the scandal in the Rome, Italy Bethel, the selling of New York Watchtower properties( $$$$$ IN THE BILLIONS ), United Nations scandal, Malawi and Mexico scandal, and all its misquotes, deceptions, and lies.

  
  

  November 2018

  This issue contains the study articles for December 31, 2018 to February 3, 2019.

  5 Sadly, some today have failed to hold on to the truth. Some were stumbled by an adjusted understanding of a Bible passage or by what a prominent brother said or did. Others were offended by Scriptural counsel they received, or they let go of the truth because of a personality clash with a fellow Christian. Still others took sides with apostates and other opposers who misrepresented our beliefs. As a result, some deliberately began “drawing away” from Jehovah and the congregation. (Heb. 3:12-14) How much better it would have been if they had maintained their faith and kept their confidence in Jesus, as the apostle Peter did! When Jesus asked the apostles if they wanted to leave, Peter immediately replied: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.” —John 6:67-69.
  
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  Another silly Bible story...brought to you by the ''old and tired Moses''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  exodus 17:8-16 new international version (niv)the amalekites defeated8 the amalekites came and attacked the israelites at rephidim.

  9 moses said to joshua, “choose some of our men and go out to fight the amalekites.

  tomorrow i will stand on top of the hill with the staff of god in my hands.”10 so joshua fought the amalekites as moses had ordered, and moses, aaron and hur went to the top of the hill.

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  Exodus 17:8-16 New International Version (NIV)
  The Amalekites Defeated
  8 The Amalekites came and attacked the Israelites at Rephidim. 9 Moses said to Joshua, “Choose some of our men and go out to fight the Amalekites. Tomorrow I will stand on top of the hill with the staff of God in my hands.”
  10 So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11 As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12 When Moses’ hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up—one on one side, one on the other—so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13 So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.
  14 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write this on a scroll as something to be remembered and make sure that Joshua hears it, because I will completely blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven.”
  15 Moses built an altar and called it The Lord is my Banner. 16 He said, “Because hands were lifted up against[a] the throne of the Lord,[b] the Lord will be at war against the Amalekites from generation to generation.”

  
  

  So, if I read this right.....God with all his power and knowledge uses a tired and old man, Moses. All he needs to do is hold a staff high enough and long enough, the Israelites will defeat the Amalekites.

  Moses is so tired his hands lower. The Amalekites now are killing and defeating the Israelites. It goes back and forth until Aaron and Hur devise a plan to prop him up so they don't lose the battle.

  Why didn't God just give Moses more power in his hands and they wouldn't have lost some men in the battle? What was God thinking? Didn't God have a better plan?

  WHAT A SILLY STORY!
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  More payouts for sex abuse

  by wannaexit in

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  there a number of threads going back 10 years regarding gilbert simental, a jw child sex predator.

  this is the latest article.

  watchtower you lost again.. https://legalnewsline.com/stories/511687317-california-court-upholds-4-million-sex-abuse-judgment-against-jehovah-s-witnesses-watchtower-organization.

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  LoveUniHateExams

  The WT policy on child abuse is so bad hat it is guilty of protecting sex offenders.
  

  I'm sure a case could be made of obstructing the course of justice, too.
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  Joke Sharing Thread

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  got a good joke or two?

  why not share them.

  here is a fun one.. retirement can be fun.

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  Here is a stupid made up joke I heard one time from a Jehovah's Witness brother.

  A man asks a Jehovah's Witness...Why are Jehovah's Witnesses so square?

  Jehovah's Witness replies...We Jehovah's Witnesses may be square but when Armageddon comes.... at least we'll be A-ROUND.

  
  
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  2018 Service Year Report - Released on jw.org

  by Drearyweather in

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  2. bible

  2018 service year report of jehovah’s witnesses worldwide.

  see details of the global preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses from september 2017 to august 2018.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2018-service-year-report/.

  average publishers preaching each month: 8,360,594 (2017 - 8,248,982).

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  2018 Service Year Report of Jehovah’s Witnesses Worldwide

  Average Publishers Preaching Each Month: 8,360,594

  2011 Service Year Report of Jehovah’s Witnesses Worldwide
  

  Average Publishers Preaching Each Month: 7,395,672

  
  

  Total Number Baptized 2018: 281,744
  Total Number Baptized 2017: 284,212
  Total Number Baptized 2016: 264,535
  Total Number Baptized 2015: 260,273
  Total Number Baptized 2014: 275,581
  Total Number Baptized 2013: 277,344
  Total Number Baptized 2012: 268,777
  Total Number Baptized 2011: 263,131

  From the year 2011 to 2018, a total of 2,175,597 new members were baptized. If you added the 7,395,672 average publishers in 2011 and newly baptized members ( 2,175,597 ) from 2011-2018, there should be 9,571,269 average publishers preaching each month in 2018.

  So, that would mean that 1,210,675 publishers have been lost in the last 8 years.
  
  

  
  
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  A Message For JWAnswers

  by cofty in

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  hi jwa.

  i want to encourage you to engage in some genuine conversation.. i appreciate what you are trying to do.

  you clearly have a passion for your subject — you must have invested countless hours in your series of videos.

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